Interview on the Hanau Attack with Investigator “Holger” from Kurtz Detective Agency Dortmund

Before the Hanau attack, the perpetrator is said to have been in Dortmund. A private detective reports on a meeting in a restaurant. Tobias R. apparently made a “strange” impression.

 

The man who contacted our editorial team on Friday says, “If you write an article, just call me Holger.” He also gave his real name, but since he works “undercover” as a private detective, he does not want it published.

 

Holger recently learned that a man he had contacted several times in 2019 killed ten people and himself. This refers to Tobias R., who became the apparently racially motivated attacker in Hanau near Frankfurt.

“He Sought Connections to the Office for the Protection of the Constitution”

“The initial contact was made through our Kurtz Detective Agency in Frankfurt,” says the investigator, who works in a nationwide network. Tobias R. called and wanted to speak only to the director or a deputy. He was connected to Holger.

 

“He was seeking connections to the Office for the Protection of the Constitution and other authorities,” says the man working in and around Dortmund. The man on the phone claimed he was being followed and monitored. The private detectives reportedly do have good contacts, but they do not disclose them, says Holger.

 

They spoke on the phone three times. “He didn’t let up,” says Holger. In the detective industry, “strange” people are not unusual. “Out of personal interest, I agreed to a meeting.” This took place on 24 October at the restaurant Dieckmanns in Dortmund-Syburg.

The Stack of Papers Already Existed in October

“He looked completely normal,” says Holger. Tobias R. wore a grey suit and spoke articulately. “He read from his manifesto to me,” says the detective. The contents, later found after the shootings, had already been laid out on the table in Dortmund in October. Holger cannot say exactly how thick the stack of papers was, but the later stated 24 pages seems about right.

 

In October, the Hesse spoke about Hollywood producers allegedly stealing a film idea from him and claimed that Donald Trump became US president through his own thought experiments. “By the age of four or five he realised he was being monitored,” says the detective. “It was in him from childhood.”

 

Detective Holger had the impression the man was trying to find people who could help him in his confusion. “I didn’t feel he was capable of something like that. He spoke of a secret organisation we were supposed to establish contact with.”

 

After about two and a half hours, the two men parted ways. They agreed that Tobias R. would send the detective his information. Since then, Holger had heard nothing from him—until the attack in February with eleven victims.

“I Can’t Blame Myself”

As a detective, he must deal discreetly with clients, says Holger. “I can’t go to the police and say, ‘Look, this man is crazy.’ They would just laugh at me.” Tobias R. gave no indication that he was capable of violent acts. Weapons were never mentioned.

 

After the Hanau attack, Holger contacted the police to provide a witness statement. “I can’t blame myself,” says the detective. Shortly after the Dortmund meeting, in November, Tobias R. himself filed a complaint against an unknown organisation said to control world events. At that time, the Federal Prosecutor’s Office had contact with the future attacker.

 

On Saturday, Holger even visited the editorial office himself. One point is particularly important to him: linking Tobias R. to racism or right-wing extremism, in his view, is “nonsense.” Tobias R. was simply ill. “The murder was a vent.”

Notes

The original article by Kevin Kindel appeared in the Ruhr Nachrichten. Highlights (bold text) and links on this page may differ from the original.

Our condolences go to the victims and their families.

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